In order to decrease micromanagement give ships crew skill points(let them handle it), the higher the points the less of a chance for catastrophy. Add more research subjects to increase skill points.

Add new dialog so whenever something happens you'll know quicker

This sounds like a good idea just needs some work and thought

It's a rough draft

I primarily am just hoping a developer will read this and think: "Oh, that's a cool concept."

Planting seeds ftw.

I like it, Sins combat is extremely boring and long to me, I'm so used to the quickness of Starcraft and the fun of Company of Heroes. I can't play Sins anymore till I find a decent mod of people changing around the combat to make it faster.

This though is one thing that would get me back into playing Sins, granted it doesn't speed up combat as these effects wouldn't happen till ships are almost dead anyway. But it does add something to the bland combat that I would definitely start to enjoy it again. And those critical system failures (the deathblow ones) I'm all for, as long as they do stay around the 10% HP mark, and of course there always the chance it won't happen anyway. =P

This is very interesting, mind telling me how you do all this? im working on a mod myself and i really want to know how to raise the chance for crit hits involving fire n the like.

I for one think it's a really cool concept. Probably bad for balancing but I'd definitely have fun with it.

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Reading through this forum, Kryo stated that targetted (spellcheck?) subsystems as a concept was rejected as it would cause too much micromanagement. In my, granted quite limited, experience, it adds a great deal to the game.
For example, Homeworld 2, one of my favourite RTS games. A pair of Battleships warping in front of your mothership and starting to carve the hull apart is bad enough. When each disgorges a vast number of Bombers which systematically annihilate Engines, Fire control Centres and Manufacturing plants in the mean time, the concept moves from a survivable skirmish to one of those circumstances where only '... oh bugger' is really appropriate.

Further, one of the mods for Supcom is a modular damage system. This is a great thing. Few things are more amusing that carving the arms off an attacking force and watching the chatlog light up as the enemy commander rages at you. Micromanagement heavy, perhaps. Rewarding and deeply satisfying, unequivocably.

Fallout 3, I believe, is intended to have a 'modular' targetting system in a similar vein to those stated, which looks very amusing. 'Look, your arms off!' 'No it isn't.' 'What's that then?' springs to mind. If someone was/is working on this mod, or will be, please don't drop it. It'll be a good thing, and players will love you for it. I'm not great but I can model basic-ish things in max and maya, if you need such things done, and i offer my services as such.

much love

I'm just trying to mod the deathblows themselves right now, using chance on death occurrences. I'll start problem solving the critical hit system when I get them done

It'll still be awhile though
I r newb @ modding


Thanks. I agree it will need a lot of balancing but, it should make the combat a lot more interesting once it is done.

P.S. Thanks to the mod community for answering my questions.

did this mod die?

Not quite. I'm just busy working on my other mod atm.
My goal is to get my visual mod nailed down and then work on my gameplay mod.

My development team consists of one sleep deprived person modding 38-56 hours a week.

On top of that I'm not even paying him.

Lost, love the idea. it adds some realism to Sins (not too much I hope) and adds a little variety to the ordinary Ready, Aim, Fire tactics used all too often. An idea would be specialized ships designed to cause critical hits on enemies. While expensive and incapable of causing any decent amount of damage to an enemy force by themselves, when combined with other ships in an armada they can really cause some havoc with the enemy. There would be a slight increase to the possibility of a deathblow, and a moderate increase to the less severe effects, such as shields and weapons. The reduced fire rate crit hit could be called "Damaged Coolant Systems" BTW. Damaged wouldn't be the same as destroyed systems, but the damage requires a reduced fire rate or the weapons overheat and explode, and no ship commander wants that.

I agree that something has to be done to fix SINS' addiction to logistics over strategy...

How about a null unit at each planet that has it's four abilities designed to carry out as much of your original plan as is possible.

The null unit would be indestructible, and invisible (or masked as a piece of debris or a small spacerock, and would use empty spots of the Large/small/mainview/HUD icons so that it doesn't show up on radar as anything important...

It's four abilities would make it so that the more shield damage it has, the more likely it will lose all it's shields, and the more hull damage it has, the more likely it will explode, etc...

If you need more than four abilities then simply make two or more null objects at each planet.

The null object can be entirely implemented as I have laid out, the only thing to do is to make the abilities do what you want...

(I suggest a null object INSTEAD of using planet abilities, as some planets use their abilities and you would want one object to apply to all gravitywells equally)

lol, I'll give that route a try when I get back to this mod.
I actually was using planet abilities and a massive chance on death buff chain.

Optimally I'd like to completely get rid of the whole "unit reaches 0 hp and dies" thing. I'd much prefer a system where a unit accumulates damage until a lucky shot finally ends it. AKA: Super Smash Brothers style. This would allow some regular irregularity in the gameplay as not every unit would have the same life cycle.

I'm looking forward to the day I can have a lone surviving capital ship limp out of a gravwell at 126% damage.

no offense but in the end it doesnt matter and adds nothing to the game.
It simply averages out over time and unlike in CoH there are a lot more units involved in combat which arent so fragile so u wouldnt even notice the effect.
Its just a lot of work with nearly no impact on gameplay.
There are other ways to make combat more interesting.

I personally love the idea! As long as a disabled weapon can be repaired after the battle, cuz i'd have to have a lv. 10 kol without weapons in an enemy galaxy.
But otherwise, i love the idea!

Such as?