No thoughts, huh?

Why did you use such a large font, it's like the entire thing is emphasized. It can't all be emphasized. That ruins the entire point of emphasizing.

I don't think I want a chance of seven billion things happening out of the blue to completely destroy my ship's effectiveness in combat.

Also, Soldier crit rocket is OP lols

Thanks, I was staring at it so long I didn't notice

Should be fixed now

I actually read it now.. or at least enough of it to get the premise of what you're doing.

I personally dislike the idea, I don't want bizarre random chance events ruining a hard.. but winnable battle. I think you need to tone down the lethality of a lot of these "malfunctions."

For a mod, it may be interesting. However, I would not personally play it with any regularity. Random chance events with major effects ruin games, in my opinion. If there were a way to control these events, or have some measure of control over them. Some method of increasing or decreasing the possibility of the events.

As for the second suggestion, this would cause too much micromanagement for fleets of the size you deal with in Sins. I like the idea in smaller games, such as Freespace, where you are dealing with just one or a few ships.

Randomness is something to use sparingly and not on major events, such as destroying Capital Ships.

I get what everyone is saying about the randomness of the events. I think I might be miss leading about how often and when they would occur.

The chance of something negative occurring on a critical hit is inversely related to HP/SP. In other words the ship is going to have to be pretty far gone for something serious to happen to it.

So in summary, something negative doesn't always have to happen. What I'm trying to do is add some flavor in the way ships slowly falter and finally cease to be.



I was hoping the AI would be modified to automatically max out mitigation on as many ships as possible in the opposing fleet. To me this would be considered a kind of suppression tactic, equating to what a machine gun is used for in modern warfare. I realize this suggestion would be pretty impractical otherwise with large numbers of ships. My bad for not clarifying.

It'd be kind of anticlimactic if you're desperately trying to get a ship out of a gravity well and then suddenly the engine blows up or something. I agree with the theory behind this (make these sort of battles more interesting and deep) but don't think the execution is correct.

smart idea's

tough some apear overpowerd (instant deaths)

tough some apear quite fun (computer damage, antimatter implosion (@ destroyed capital only)


just leave the idea on wich marks to use.. +'s >'s and some more are already in use (level up, avaible squadron slot etc.)



+ capital ship exploding cuasing lotsa damage incrases the need 2 stay sharp @ battles

- on large maps with 3/4 fleets fighting on different systems you wil be totaly unable to manage al the fleets having up + down effects

- players who are having a hard time winning and are flying around with heaviliy damaged capital ships want the same chance as others
suddenly the capital explding cuase it had 50% health left.. is not an option

capital ship implosion due 2 a capital kamikaze run atleast adds something new to the game
(no it's a last resort option implosion does medium damage and is there to help the fleet gain an advantage (capitla ship with 20% live left = dead... no matter how u look @ it in big fights the enemy wil do anything do see it die... why not give it an "option zero" ability??



id say prioritize a capital ship being able to bash a light frigate aside cuase i'm retreating... rather then the entire fleet getting stuck cuase theres 1 stubborn light friagte @ the front (u know what i mean... )

after that we can think about what new stuff we'd like
fix the old
implent the new... not the other way around

I like the idea of splash damage from capships lighting up. It's a rather neat counterstrategy to surrounding them with support frigates.

-- Retro

While I don't think a CoH-style system in particular was looked at during development, targetable and destroyable subsystems on ships was specifically rejected as it would add too much micromanagement.

I'd love a COH style to this game. Right now, its wonderful, but it does turn into too much of a Starcraft style number fest for me. Since COH has been my game of choice for 2 years, going back to SC seems like a step backward.

Unfortunately, I'm not much of a modder, nor do I have time to learn. I'd love to play it if you do get it modded.

One other thought... COH has a very delicate balance. Sins would be much harder to balance with this in place.

This sounds interesting, but I like the system of combat right now. While the combat system may not be as interesting and realistic as this, it is much simpler, and easier to handle. Having a ton of different stuff happening to my ships during combat like this would probably make me stop playing the game.

I kind of wish battles were a bit more tactiable; ships take more damage from the rear than from the front. Same with sides (but not as much).

I think it's a good idea, but I'm really worried about massive interface clutter, as well as the encouragement of micromanaging units with interesting disabilities - like the engine overload. Would you want ship AI to be trying to handle the problems it encounters, or would you leave it in the players' hands?

For a game with hit points, having a "die at zero" is expected when looking at the bar. I wonder if there is some sort of way to communicate the Super Smash Brothers-style damage system (a number that goes up with your vulnerability, never maxing out, but making you incredibly likely to die as it gets higher). I think that that sort of system suits this idea better, but little colored bars in the empire tree would be infeasible for this system.

Ben

Alright, thx for the reply kryo. I'll have to figure out some way to mod what I can.
I'd like to thank everyone else for keeping it civil.



I don't want to add any more micro than I have to. I'm really not a big fan of babysitting units. I was hoping the simple interface icons would keep the clutter to a minimal amount while still informing the player of what is going on. The way I was thinking of Engine Overload would be a sort of death throw, where the ship is given a completely random trajectory. After snaking its way through space for a very short time it would explode. So in other words, AI would handle it.



I understand your fears. One ability I see adding excessive stress on the player would be Life Support Failure. I'd agree after thinking about it it'd be kind of a pain to select the ship and try to get it healed ASAP. I'll revise them further.

Thanks for the feedback.